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  The 1914 generation is still going strong 100 years later - 2014 study article.

  by THE GLADIATOR in

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  january 2014 watchtower study article.

  let your kingdom comebut when?.

  this generation will not pass away.

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  THE GLADIATOR

  Thank you all for your comments and enthusiasm to disscus this worn out subject once more. I put it out there again because there will be young Jehovah's Witnesses with doubts looking at this site, who have not given this matter much thought or looked at the promises the Watchtower Society made for several generations. I have my doubts about the authenticity of the Bible but as it is an absolute authority to Jehovah's Witnesses, the Watchtower Society has to show respect for scripture. This means accurately representing the intention of Jesus’ words.

  Jesus, having condemned the Scribes and Pharisees for their hypocrisy and treatment of the prophets, Jesus went on to speak of the destruction of Jerusalem. He was talking to the Scribes and Pharisees and telling them they would pay for the wrong they had done with their lives.

  Truly I say to you. All these things will come upon this generation. “Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the killer of the prophets… Matthew 23:36, 37 - New World Translation

  Jesus then left them and was approached by his disciples who asked him to look at the temple buildings with them. Jesus was asked by them when the fall of Jerusalem and the destruction of their temple would be. He then gave a detailed description of the events leading up to this. Jesus then repeated his statement concerning the generation then living to his disciples:

  I tell you this: this present generation will live to see it all.

  Matthew24:34- The New English Bible

  Truly I say to you that this generation will by no means pass away until all things occur.

  Matthew24:34- New World Translation

  Any Jehovah's Witnesse looking at the comments and quotes on this thread owes it to themself to carry out an independent examination of the - This Generation Fiasco.
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  The 1914 generation is still going strong 100 years later - 2014 study article.

  by THE GLADIATOR in

  1. watchtower
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  january 2014 watchtower study article.

  let your kingdom comebut when?.

  this generation will not pass away.

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  THE GLADIATOR

  Sir82 Lots of threads on this topic already.

  This is true, it is an old subject:

  If you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system of things. Why not? Because all the evidence in fulfilment of Bible prophecy indicates that this corrupt system is due to end in a few years. Of the generation that observed the beginning of the 'last days' in 1914, Jesus foretold: 'This generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur.' Therefore, as a young person, you will never fulfil any career that this system offers.

  Awake! May 22 1969 - page 15

  What amazes me is that, instead of the Bethel boys letting the subject die a death, they have made the subject a study article for 2014.

  They keep the subject current by picking over the bones of the dead anointed remnant.
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  The 1914 generation is still going strong 100 years later - 2014 study article.

  by THE GLADIATOR in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  january 2014 watchtower study article.

  let your kingdom comebut when?.

  this generation will not pass away.

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  How comforting it is to know that the younger anointed contemporaries of those older anointed ones who discerned the sign when it became evident beginning in 1914 will not die off before the great tribulation starts!

  The Watchtower 15 June 2010 - page 5

  The cornerstone teaching that had, for more than a hundred years, predicted the end of the present world within the lifetime of those who witnessed the 1914 world war is now obsolete. The generation with the earthly hope had expected to live long enough to enter the new world and cheat death. Those belonging to the ‘little flock’ with a heavenly calling had been promised they would receive their reward within their lifetime.

  Beaten by the passage of time the Watchtower Society has been forced to move the date for the battle of Armageddon on - indefinitely. Now the ordinary members are to take comfort in believing that the younger anointed contemporaries, will carry the baton - to infinity and beyond.

  You couldn't make it up - but, thank god, the Watchtower Society are at your service to make it up for you.
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  The 1914 generation is still going strong 100 years later - 2014 study article.

  by THE GLADIATOR in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  january 2014 watchtower study article.

  let your kingdom comebut when?.

  this generation will not pass away.

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  January 2014 Watchtower study article. “Let Your Kingdom Come”—But When?

  THIS GENERATION WILL NOT PASS AWAY

  14-16. What is a third reason for believing that God’s Kingdom will “come” soon?

  14 There is yet a third reason for confidence. What has developed among God’s people points to the nearness of the end. For example, prior to the establishment of God’s Kingdom in heaven, a group of faithful anointed ones were actively serving God. When some of their expectations about what would happen in 1914 did not come about, what did they do? Most of them proved their integrity under trials and persecution and kept right on serving Jehovah. Over the years, most—if not all—of those anointed ones have faithfully completed their earthly course.

  15 In his detailed prophecy about the conclusion of this system of things, Jesus said: “This generation will by no means pass away until all these things happen.” (Read Matthew 24:33-35.) We understand that in mentioning “this generation,” Jesus was referring to two groups of anointed Christians. The first group was on hand in 1914, and they readily discerned the sign of Christ’s presence in that year. Those who made up this group were not merely alive in 1914, but they were spirit-anointed as sons of God in or before that year.—Rom. 8:14-17.

  16 The second group included in “this generation” are anointed contemporaries of the first group. They were not simply alive during the lifetime of those in the first group, but they were anointed with holy spirit during the time that those of the first group were still on earth. Thus, not every anointed person today is included in “this generation” of whom Jesus spoke. Today, those in this second group are themselves advancing in years. Yet, Jesus’ words at Matthew 24:34 give us confidence that at least some of “this generation will by no means pass away” before seeing the start of the great tribulation. This should add to our conviction that little time remains before the King of God’s Kingdom acts to destroy the wicked and usher in a righteous new world.—2 Pet. 3:13.

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  "little time remains"

  Don't it make ya feel warm all over.
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  Why did God wait so long to have a special people?

  by truthseeker in

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  i was thinking the other day, why did it take so long for god to have a special people, namely the nation of israel.. and when he did choose his people, it's as if god ignored every other culture and nation on earth only to focus on abraham, isaac and there descendants.. there was no way of learning about the one true god in those days unless you lived near the borders of the israelite nation.. if you read the minor prophet books of the bible, it seems as if god is addressing the whole world, when in reality, people living in other countries at the time would have no idea of these "universal proclamations".

  why did god not give guidance to these other societies?.

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  truthseeker May I ask why you believe - it took so long for God to have a special people, namely the nation of Israel? And when he did choose his people, it's as if God ignored every other culture and nation on Earth only to focus on Abraham, Isaac and there descendants.

  Why not adopt one of the many other gods on offer? They are, on the whole, easier to apease and less demanding than the Hebrew desert god. A number of them also precede him.
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  Evolution - What Darwin Never Knew

  by frankiespeakin in

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aybrbcli4zu.

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  adamah I stated that the tactic of burying one's head in the sand - doesn’t even work for the poorly evolved ostrich.

  Thank you for comments, but if you are going to start using big words like 'anthromorphization' I shall head for the sandpit.
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  Evolution - What Darwin Never Knew

  by frankiespeakin in

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aybrbcli4zu.

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  THE GLADIATOR

  If ignorance were bliss, then there would be some benefit in burying our head in the sand. This tactic doesn’t even work for the poorly evolved ostrich, which despite being a bird cannot fly. Instead such an approach robs intelligent humans of a once in a lifetime opportunity to appreciate the wonder of this planet, which has taken billions of years to reach this stage of development.

  We live at a wonderful time in history where we know more about the world and how it works than ever before. When I was a kid, evolution was a theory. Since the discovery of DNA and Carbon Dating, it has become fact. It is tragic that people offered an abundance of research and proven facts; dismiss all evidence that does not fit in with their belief in an invisible creator.

  As Richard Dawkins says; “The truth, is more magical – in the best and most exciting sense of the word – than any myth or made-up mystery or miracle.”
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  Writing a book

  by DeWandelaar in

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  dear all,.

  today i decided i will write a book.

  it will not be a book about my findings or revelations about ttatt and neither will it be a book about my personal experiences.

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  THE GLADIATOR

  DeWandelaar Don't give up the day job!
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  The Bible and it's promise of Heaven and various other things

  by confusedandalone in

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  now in no way am i trying to discredit anyones beliefs or make fun, but once you get to heaven what is the plan once you get there.. of course, we always overlay extremely physical things upon the experience of heaven... milk and honey... ruiling over the earth etc... truthful the whole idea sounds so boring / mundane /monotonous.

  spending all of eternity serving god by carry messages here and there?.

  watching humans... i guess spending time with family that are also there and reminiscing.

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  tec "Hi Glad!! I am 'glad' to hear from you, lol. I miss talking with you." Miss you too Tammy - must call in more often.
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  The Bible and it's promise of Heaven and various other things

  by confusedandalone in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  now in no way am i trying to discredit anyones beliefs or make fun, but once you get to heaven what is the plan once you get there.. of course, we always overlay extremely physical things upon the experience of heaven... milk and honey... ruiling over the earth etc... truthful the whole idea sounds so boring / mundane /monotonous.

  spending all of eternity serving god by carry messages here and there?.

  watching humans... i guess spending time with family that are also there and reminiscing.

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  THE GLADIATOR

  There is only one reality and that sometimes fails to meet our expectations. That is where imagination comes into play. It enables some people to create a second reality that is nearer to their hearts desire. Alas it exists only in their mind. For some people that is enough - I envy them.